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I have a dream, I called it ERL
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Do you think this type of competition is useful?
Yes
76%
 76%  [ 19 ]
No
24%
 24%  [ 6 ]
Voted : 25
Total Votes : 25
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Ed Schroder



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PostPost subject: I have a dream, I called it ERL    Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:13 pm Reply to topic Reply with quote

ERL stands for Evaluation Rating List, a new type of competition with a wink.

For years I have been toying with the idea, so now and then dropped a pilot balloon but I can't remember anyone to respond to it. But sometimes I am just stubborn, as in this case, and set the first step.

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The goal is to improve the evaluation in a new way, that is, without the obstacle of search. Imagine a reasonable strong (open source) engine with a reasonable good search, readable source code and we replace the evaluation funnction with our own. What are the advantages c.q disadvantages?

Advantages

1. It's much more easy to discover the weaknesses of your evaluation since search hardly (to none) plays its dominant role. You don't lose (or win) a game because you are outsearched. You lose (or win) a game because of your evaluation.

2. Playing X versus Y -- since the 2 searches are indentical -- you are measuring the evaluation strength.

3. If we can determine strength we can create a competition based on fixed depth games in order to avoid the last issue that may influence the result as engine X and Y have different time cycles, engine X might have a slow evaluation while engine Y has a fast one. As such we eliminate the last obstacle for a reasonable fair estimation who has the strongest eval based within the scope of this project.

4. The learning effect. Will depend on the number of participants considering the status is open source and GPL.

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Read further at: http://rebel13.nl/misc/erl.html

And vote Wink
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I have a dream, I called it ERL Ed Schroder Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:13 pm
      Re: I have a dream, I called it ERL H.G.Muller Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:25 pm
            Re: I have a dream, I called it ERL Dann Corbit Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:53 pm
                  Re: I have a dream, I called it ERL Pawel Koziol Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:07 pm
                        Re: I have a dream, I called it ERL Ed Schroder Tue Aug 29, 2017 5:38 am
                  Re: I have a dream, I called it ERL H.G.Muller Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:13 pm
                        Re: I have a dream, I called it ERL Ed Schroder Tue Aug 29, 2017 5:57 am
            Re: I have a dream, I called it ERL Ed Schroder Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:03 pm
      Re: I have a dream, I called it ERL Uri Blass Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:27 pm
            Re: I have a dream, I called it ERL Ed Schroder Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:45 am
                  Re: I have a dream, I called it ERL Dann Corbit Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:49 am
                        Re: I have a dream, I called it ERL Ed Schroder Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:05 am
      Re: I have a dream, I called it ERL Lyudmil Tsvetkov Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:05 am
            Re: I have a dream, I called it ERL Ed Schroder Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:21 am
            Re: I have a dream, I called it ERL Henk van den Belt Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:07 pm
      Re: I have a dream, I called it ERL Frank Quisinsky Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:47 am
      Re: I have a dream, I called it ERL J Donald Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:53 am
            Re: I have a dream, I called it ERL Pawel Koziol Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:48 am
                  Re: I have a dream, I called it ERL J Donald Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:45 pm
                  Re: I have a dream, I called it ERL Uri Blass Tue Aug 29, 2017 3:52 pm
                        Re: I have a dream, I called it ERL Pawel Koziol Tue Aug 29, 2017 4:33 pm
                        Re: I have a dream, I called it ERL H.G.Muller Tue Aug 29, 2017 5:49 pm
                  Re: I have a dream, I called it ERL Ed Schroder Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:59 am
            Re: I have a dream, I called it ERL Ed Schroder Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:54 am
                  Re: I have a dream, I called it ERL J Donald Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:54 pm
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